So how did that become, how did joining the Air Force then turn into being on Air Force One? How did one lead to the other?

Yeah, well, I was in the Air Force about 10 years prior to becoming a flight attendant in the United States Air Force.

So at the time, me and my wife were stationed in Spain at Torjon Air Force Base.

And we got an assignment to come to Andrews Air Force Base.

And at the time, both of us, my wife Deborah and myself, were in the same job.

And from a career perspective, no different than a civilian job, the challenges for us both to get promoted and circumstances within the same place probably just wasn't going to be beneficial to us in the long term.

So we had a staff meeting one day and they offered this opportunity for, at that time it was called in-flight passenger service specialist.

How did you kind of manage all the differing needs on the aircraft and and making sure that the needs were met, not just of the president, but but of the staff and that all of the elements were taken care of so the job can get done?