we are speaking with reg platt from project joseph healing for men after abortion we're talking about a retreat that's coming to the archdiocese of seattle in october october 10th and 11th and i would ask uh reg what what would you say to men who say are listening have gone through this experience of but who are hesitant to admit it number one and number two, hesitant to come to a men's retreat.

Well, I want them to know that I understand the baggage that they're carrying and it's not something that's easy to put down on one's own.

Uh, project Joseph helps men examine what they have been through, what their responsibilities with it is and how to put it at the foot of the cross.

for Jesus to take care of it.

I tell men, there's hope for you.

You are not alone in this.

There are people who have been through it and understand.

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