Where do you see the role that, the roles that we're doing in-house, how do you see the future of legal ops in general in companies?

There is a lot more talk about this than I would have expected.

There's, there are groups of people and individuals that are talking about will AI replace legal ops.

I don't get that at all.

This isn't a, "I'm worried therefore I'm taking the counter approach." The foundational role of legal ops is people, process, tech, and overarching spend.

The tech is become, becoming more important than ever, managing the tech.

And the, it's only, it's not just managing the new tech that's coming.

As you think about operations in general, Reece, as somebody who's a leader in legal operations and has been doing it a long time, what advice would you give legal ops professionals who are either trying to grow in their, in their own role or looking for that next role? What would you say to them?