I wanna have my own line as well," and, you know?

That is what I said.

[laughs] So, no, it's a great question.

I, um, so I'd been at Coach for 12 or 13 years.

The brand had grown to 5 billion, close to 5 billion, um, from 500 million, maybe less than 500 million actually.

Um, we had introduced a zillion new categories, fragrances, watches, shoes, um, over, on and on.

And, um, we were kind of running out of room.

Mm.