Are there some obscure cases that we don't really hear about a lot that has piqued your interest, or is it just, like, the, the... a lot of the main ones that, like Westall and things like that?

Yeah.

It's a, it, it's an interesting question because, yeah, obviously I think the, the main Australian cases get a lot of attention.

You know, Westall in particular because it's a mass sighting.

But I think, you know, with someone like Bill, who's done a lot of work personally investigating a lot more remote or just individual cases across the board, you start to see, and as, as I've started to do this myself with speaking to people, that there's an incredible amount of, of high strangeness and, and obscurity in a lot of the individual cases of people that are experiences.

And there's a, there's a great case, uh, which is sort of, I guess, an early abductee you would call.

A- and Bill's probably documented this, and it's in his book, Heir of the Alien, but it's, it's one of my favorites.

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