How do you begin that conversation with family members? And I, I know I keep going back to the, you know, 22-year-old, uh, male, but how do you begin that conversation if you think everything is going okay in their lives? Do we still have that conversation, Rebecca, and then how?

Yeah, I think it's always important to be thinking in the back of your mind when you're asking somebody how you're doing or not just relying on how they look outwardly to determine that answer for you.

Asking directly can be really helpful, and I think when you know someone's going through a difficult time or maybe is expressing, uh, feeling more tired or just struggling in some sort of way, that should always be a part of the conversation.

It's easy to just sort of say, you know, normalize it in a sense that, "This is a tough time that you're going through.

Other people who go through tough times like this, sometimes they experience wishing they were dead or wishing that they could, you know, not be here anymore, wishing that they could, um, wa- you know, go to sleep and, and never wake up.

Have you had those thoughts? Is that something that's going along with this challenging time that you're having?" Uh, just being able to make that a part of the conversation and explicitly ask about it.

I think going back to what Clancy said, we tend to believe that if we ask about it, we're gonna make it worse, or we're gonna plant a seed, and so we tend to shy away from those conversations.

Yeah.

How do you begin that conversation with family members? And I, I know I keep going back to the, you know, 22-year-old, uh, male, but how do you begin that conversation? If you think everything is going okay in their lives, do we still have that conversation, Rebecca, and then how?

Yeah, I think it's always important to be thinking in the back of your mind when you're asking somebody how you're doing or not just relying on how they look outwardly to determine that answer for you.

Asking directly can be really helpful, and I think when you know someone's going through a difficult time or maybe f- is expressing, uh, feeling more tired or just struggling in some sort of way, that should always be a part of the conversation.

It's easy to just sort of say, you know, normalize it in a sense that, "This is a tough time that you're going through.

Other people who go through tough times like this, sometimes they experience wishing they were dead or wishing that they could, you know, not be here anymore, wishing that they could, um, wa- you know, go to sleep and, and never wake up.

Have you had those thoughts? Is that something that's going along with this challenging time that you're having?" Uh, just being able to make that a part of the conversation and explicitly ask about it.

I think, going back to what Clancy said, we tend to believe that if we ask about it, we're gonna make it worse, or we're gonna plant a seed, and so we tend to shy away from those conversations.

Yeah.