But just the mechanics of the different groups and who was involved and that sort of thing.

Sure.

So I'll, I'll s- I'll start from the beginning.

So as, as you mentioned, the Marine Life Protection Act, that was passed in 1999.

And, uh, in 2001, the state decided that they were going to develop these marine protected areas.

So they did what they always did, is they put together a panel of Department of Fish and Wildlife scientists, and they decided to hold a few meetings throughout the state, and then they were gonna create the marine protected areas.

Uh, I went to the meeting in 2001 in Costa Mesa, and that was-- I had just started with Coastkeeper, and I mean, I was shocked.

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