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We just build right on top of burials all the time.

And so, you know, whether we know it or not, we're likely, you know, in contact with the dead at, at a lot of the times.

But also, you know, community engagement is something I feel really strongly about because of the context through which I work.

And so because of churches, these undiscovered sites that are in the colonial period, we have to think very critically about who is doing the work, and who has a stake in doing the work, and who needs to be consulted in doing this work.

So when we're talking about histories of the colonial period, we have histories of European individuals.

Uh, we also have histories of Indigenous individuals and of African and African-descended individuals, and those folks were brought here through the processes of colonialism, whether that is free, forced, or, or coerced.

What, what are some of the things that you can learn using ancient DNA?