Raf, what are you finding?

I think I'll echo what everyone has said to some extent in that Vanessa's point around value and, you know, r-remembering how we built software to date is still very relevant.

But it's changing because we're moving faster, we've got larger PRs.

But at the same time, I've really tried to emphasize that need to keep asking, what is the value we're delivering, right? We can generate just about anything we think about right now, and we push it across the line.

Is it having the return on investment that we expect it to? We have huge spend on tokens, right? So FinOps is still as important as it ever was, but are we getting the return that comes from it? We're using models and capabilities that are very heavily subsidized by providers upstream.

Are we being cognizant of the fact that we're coupling ourselves with this huge investment that is heavily subsidized today? You know, what, what is the plan forward? So what I'd throw out there is that I think redefining engineering, we're kind of in that space at the moment, and I don't know where it's going.

But I'd remind people to be cognizant of the fact that there were a lot of methods that preceded where we are today.

What are you seeing?