Mm

... uh, on the last game.

We had drawn against Ecuador i- in Ecuador.

We needed to win in Trinidad, and we would've made the World Cup in 2015.

And we got knocked out on a free kick in the 92nd minute, uh, of the game.

And, uh, you know, but it was an experience I wouldn't trade.

I'm still in touch with quite a few of those players I had back then.

Mm-hmm

So I want to hear, I want people to hear the other side of the argument.

Well, look, there's a lot in it.

And let me start by saying this is, I go back to our coaches being apathetic.

You're absolutely right that our leadership does not want this.

But I think there are more coaches out there They're hidden under the rocks somewhere that would be for it, you know, but haven't really spoken out.

I know that they'll, the leadership will say, well, 83% of our surveyed coaches don't want it.

Well, okay.

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