Mm.

Great book.

Um, she said, "Why would I wanna do something I already know how to do? There'd be nothing left to learn." And so when I took that product ownership role, that was my mindset.

You know, I wanted to have like a growth mindset.

And doing the product ownership role, that helped me understand, uh, requirements gathering upfront, right? Making sure you're understanding what is it the client wants, wants, and that's really important in the people analytics space.

Like I was saying, you know, we wanna understand what's the question we're really answering, or what's the question underneath the question? Um, also, uh, public backlogs, you know.

Letting people see the work that you have in the funnel so when new requests come in, they understand that, "Hey, if I'm doing this, I can't do that.

Yeah.