Yeah, so that was Thorne Creative, right?

No, that was US Web CKS, which was March 1st.

Okay.

I, at one point, had stock options, and according to my math, I was going to have about $3 million when I left that agency.

And, of course, an 85,000-person professional services firm in the dot-com bust in 1999 kind of put an end to those dreams.

Yeah.

I left there and actually worked for Bulger Print Shop, Concept to Print is what they were called, and they had a design area there.

Where do you draw the line on what you will and won't do and what you might outsource or partner with someone else on?