What did Ryan say? Did he talk about that at all in the postgame? Or is that a is that a conversation point you think with the team sort of about maturity and taking that next step?

Yeah, I didn't hear him directly comment on that.

He may have.

I know Macklin talked about it because Macklin jumped on the ice and that's when the whistle blew for too many.

But we had Jamal Mayers, who's our full-time radio analyst now, and he comes on on the second intermission on the TV side to break down the highlights on all our games in the second intermission.

And And he said that penalty was more on Michael Mesa because Mesa was on the ice and he was at the end of what Macklin thought was the end of his shift.

And Mesa starts making the move to the bench and Jammer said, you know, if I'm Macklin Celebrini and I see Mesa coming to the bench, I'm already looking out onto the ice because I think he's committed and he's coming.

You're the best for a reason.

What did Ryan say? Did he talk about that at all in the post game? Or is that a conversation point you think with the team? Sort of about maturity and taking that next step.

Yeah, I didn't hear him directly comment on that.

He may have.

I know Macklin talked about it because Macklin jumped on the ice and that's when the whistle blew for too many.

But we had Jamal Mayers, who's our full-time radio analyst now, and he comes on on the second intermission on the TV side to break down the highlights on all our games in the second intermission.

And he said that penalty was more on Michael Misa because Misa was on the ice and he was at the end of what Macklin thought was the end of his shift.

And Misa starts making the move to the bench.

You're the best for a reason.

Yeah, so can you kind of give us the origin of how it started?

Well, how it started, the origin actually goes back to you because last Thanksgiving, I think Will Smith made chocolate chip banana bread and you posted that chocolate chip banana bread and it went viral.

And that kind of sparked an idea for my wife, Andrea.

Now, Andrea is a professional baker.

She owns a baker, Frost Cupcake Factory, ta-da, in San Jose.

And a number of years ago, when she was first starting out her business, she got an opportunity to go on Cupcake Wars on the Food Network.

So if you're just starting out a business, I mean, the potential exposure for something like that is amazing for her.

And whether this started with a little picture here on Never Offside and our little manifestation hacks here, I'm going to put it out there that this is the first of many elevated cupcake experiences because it was awesome.

So I would like to hear, you know, you being an alumni, I would love to hear about what you think of everything about hockey night, Canada.

Well, I mean, those of us who grew up in Canada, one, two, three of us on this podcast, you know, it's ingrained in the fabric of your growing up.

You know, I'm 67.

So when I started caring about watching hockey, I was probably about six years old.

So that's 1964.

And it was the only game of the week.

Saturday night in 1964, there were only six teams.

What did you see in the playoffs this year? What caught your eye? And how much fun is it just kind of freelancing and just showing up? And I know you do all your work beforehand, but doing it where you're basically Switzerland on the broadcast versus representing the Sharks.

I mean, you got to double down on this, right? At this point, I got to imagine you're feeling as confident as ever with that take you had a little bit over a month ago.

Well, yeah, I mean, there's sitting, what, five behind Edmonton with two in hand.

And, you know, we're just barely at the 50 game mark here.

So you're right.

There's a long way to go still.

And we don't know the impact of what the Olympics are going to be.

I mean, the Sharks have their share of players there, headlined by Celebrini going to the Olympics.

But what makes him the right coach for this group? And what are sort of the things you can point to in their success is like, all right, like Ryan Worsofsky's fingerprints are on this part.

I mean, you got to double down on this, right? At this point, I got to imagine you're feeling as confident as ever with that take you had a little bit over a month ago.

Well, yeah, I mean, there's sitting, what, five behind Edmonton with two in hand.

And, you know, we're just barely at the 50 game mark here.

So you're right.

There's a long way to go still.

And we don't know the impact of what the Olympics are going to be.

I mean, the Sharks have their share of players there, headlined by Celebrini going to the Olympics.

But what makes him the right coach for this group? And what are sort of the things you can point to in their success is like, all right, like Ryan Worsofsky's fingerprints are on this part.