And s- so are you just constantly in marathon prep? How do you s- how do you stay in, in good, good enough shape, I guess, to do this so frequently?

I have a baseline.

I, I run year-round.

I've...

In the old days, I used to run six days a week.

I would take one day off.

Uh, now because of my age, there's injuries that I have to balance between the training.

Now for, for Karla and other people who are perhaps, you know, first-timers doing this marathon, do you have any, uh, tips or tricks or pre- or post-r- race rituals that you would suggest?

And so are you just constantly in marathon prep? How do you s- how do you stay in, in good, good enough shape, I guess, to do this so frequently?

I have a baseline.

I, I run year-round.

I ...

In the old days, I used to run six days a week.

I would take one day off.

Uh, now, because of my age, there's injuries that I have to balance between the training, so I run about four days a week.

Now, for, for Karla and other people who are perhaps, you know, first-timers doing this marathon, do you have any, uh, tips or tricks or pre or post-race rituals that you would suggest?