How would you approach that compared to me?

Yes, I think here again, we need to look at in which situation we are in.

We are clearly overfed in that position.

Then the question arises, like, are we also under-muscled, which in most cases is true, but there are also some people who probably have a good amount of muscle mass.

And there I would really look at the experience level of the person.

Is that someone who has been in that position for their whole life? Or is that something that was accumulated over a few years? Or was that maybe a mistake they made with letting themselves go or doing a bulk or trying to bulk and ending up? So these are very different perspectives.

different starting positions but what I observed with working with people who are higher up in the body fat ranges is that there is more like emotional eating more shame and more stress involved and also like mental models involved when it comes to when it comes to weight loss.

you

the kind of world titles and things but in terms of taking your physique to that level do you feel like you've met like as high a standard as what you think you'd get to or do you think there's not much left juice to

squeeze out I mean there are two parts in me to answer that question one part is still that competitor in me that says like for sure there is more potential and I will never deny that I mean I'm I didn't max out my physique if I would give it another 10 years for sure I would be I would be great but For me, it was just...

I always acted very hard on alignment of what I feel and what my heart and my head thinks.

So that was just kind of gone.

I just didn't feel that fire to get back on stage and... walk through life with that lens of being a perfect athlete because that's the way I function.

Like the last 10 years, I just made my decisions out of that lens.

I wouldn't say like I was one of these extreme bodybuilders, but still it was just constantly in the back of my head that I want to do that.

So what kind of, what are the key changes to your like off season