Is there like a reason why you wanted to, you know, draw and animate that way? Is there a message or is this just something you were drawn to?

Originally, it was very intuitive.

You know, like, you see something, it makes you feel it some type of way, and then you kind of follow it without having, like, a theoretical framework around it.

And for me, when I started animation, it was very...

Like, it was happenstance.

I just got asked by friends to make a music video.

I had never animated before.

Like, how do you manage to stay on track time-wise? Like, have you got a schedule that you try and follow or is it kind of like just constantly working and hoping for the best sort of strategy?

Is there like a reason why you wanted to, you know, draw and animate that way? Is there a message or is this just something you were drawn to?

originally it was very intuitive you know like you see something it makes you feel it some type of way and then you kind of follow it without having like a theoretical framework around it and for me when i started animation it was very like it was happenstance i just got asked by friends to make a music video i had never animated before i just said yes and then i like literally the same night i went to a party i asked somebody like do you know an animation software they told me yes there's tv paint then i downloaded tv paint and then i started animating so i didn't There wasn't much thought behind it, but what I felt I gravitated towards was very specific people.

There's this director Satoshi Kon, a Japanese animation director.

There was something in his work where I felt like he's doing something with the medium where he edits in a way that is really particular to animation and creates this kind of weird disorientation in the world.

And I also really connected with Masaaki Yuasa's work.

who does a lot of work with stretching bodies, but I think in his work, and this now comes only through reflecting later, it's like, it didn't feel like it's just some kind of cool aesthetic gimmick.

It felt like he's expressing something really particular with it.

Like, how do you manage to stay on track time-wise? Like, have you got a schedule that you try and follow or is it kind of like just constantly working and hoping for the best sort of strategy?