Right.

And so, like, in, like, we're just a bunch of bloggers having this conversation, and what was happening is that women's Bible studies were, um, sort of more traditionally, like, reading a bunch of words and then following it with Bible verses.

Um, or, you know, just m- I think a lot of women, myself included, were feeling like the best, you know, f- way that I can be fed is by asking somebody else who's read the Bible what they think, uh, or going and sitting in church and listening to my pastor.

Like, these are good things, but how regularly am I going to the primary source? How regularly am I, and can I go and just read the Bible for myself? Like, I don't have a degree.

Like, all the things that would discount me or discredit me or just make me not really capable of, like, reading and understanding rightly what scripture says, I think that I and a lot of women counted ourselves out, just like, I don't know, that's not, that's not for me.

And so we were just, like, having this conversation.

We were like, "Well, why don't we just do it?" Like, "Why don't we just try? And this time, what if we did it together?" And so, like, the very shortest version of that is we were like, you know, the more and more people on this Twitter conversation were going, "Yeah, actually I connect with this so deeply.

... with random people but none of it with Jesus?

Right.

Like, let me listen to other women or men who are, um, also processing that.

Like, the whole goal of our podcast is we read scripture together.

We get together and we talk about it, and we-

We'll take it.

But I have for years, just like when I get 15 minutes or more in the car, I'm going back to pick up where I was.

And recently, as I've been studying this and, like, studying the idea-

Yeah

... a little further ahead, uh, than us, you know, maybe a little more well-trained than us.

I think it matters to join ourselves, um, hip to hip with, uh, with other w- women, other men-

Right.

Like, let me listen to other women or men who are, um, also processing that.

Like, the whole goal of our podcast is we read scripture together.

We get together, and we talk about it, and we-

So t- talk to us about how you and Amanda met and ended up being on this incredible journey together.

together.Yeah, I mean, I, it's a, it's a where to begin sort of a story.

I, um, back- background about me, I'm, I've been married for 22 years, uh, to my husband Ryan.

We have two kids.

Um, they are 15 and 18.

The oldest is about to, he's gonna turn 19 in a couple weeks.

He's in college now.

So when did that idea pop up?