without it turning into the mess that we have today?

Yeah, I think there's a few things we should think about.

The first thing I would say to people is, even if you don't like me, okay, you can call me all kinds of names.

There's plenty of criticisms.

Some of them are very valid.

Some of them are not.

But the one thing people don't usually say about me is that I seem stupid or uneducated, right? People have seen my debates.

What is behind this?

That's S-E-R-V-A-L.com/tickets.

Little tidbit.

If you guys know anything about Gloria Steinem, she was recruited into the CIA straight out of Smith College, which is a, the, was one of the first big feminist women's colleges.

And if you look at their roster, that's where most of the big second-wave feminists came from.

Um, she was recruited into the CIA, into their Congress for Cultural Freedom, which if you've ever looked into that a little bit, it was like a Cold War propaganda thing to promote certain things into the culture, not only here but in places like Europe and India.

Um, and the very first issue of Ms.

Magazine that was ever published, um, with Gloria Steinem as the editor-in-chief, and she had financial backing from Clay Felker, who was a CIA agent.

The-

And maybe some new observations about that, Rachel, just why exactly does everyone seem to have trouble recognizing it in this day and age?

Yeah, this is why in my first book I took a whole chapter to talk about Protestantism and how especially like I think one of the best case studies is the United States because we were founded as a colony that was populated by radical Protestants.

sects and cults.

And when people think of like the Puritans or the Quakers, they think conservative, right? We think from our modern lens looking back, and this is why I'm constantly talking about the fallacy of presentism and how people look at history with their 2026 eyes and think, oh, Puritans, Quakers, they were super conservative.

No, those people were the radical leftists of their time.

That's why they fled Europe, because the actual more conservative Christians, even the Protestants there, were killing them.

So they had to come here to do the crazy stuff they did.

I mean, even women that will tell you that they think she should go to prison and face the full consequence of the law, they'll still express a sort of like, sympathy or relation like oh well I had postpartum depression I was like oh I had friends that had postpartum depression it's it proves what you said about the sisterhood that this female tribalism is sort of it that's they're more tribal than most other groups I mean I'm talking like race and religion as well which is a very a very dangerous reality to have so female evil accountability Lindsay Clancy go where you'd like

Mm-hmm.

And so that's been probably the darkest, um, periods in my li- in my life, have been the insomnia.

I think because there are certain obstacles and hardships in life you expect, and that wasn't one of them.

You know? So you expect, okay, I have to pay off a mortgage.

Okay, I might have to go to work, or I might have a, a child who's difficult.

But something like this, which feels like such a setback, and, um, when I've often said to God, "God, I could be such a blessing if you could just heal me," you know? [laughs] Uh, that's, that's hard because it's not a hardship that's useful at all.

[laughs] And, um, on top of that, I also have a, a hernia, which means I wake up at night and I'm often choking So I'll might get to sleep at 1:00, 1:00 AM and then at 2:00 AM I'm sort of gasping for breath all the way until 7:00.

How do we approach prayer life if it's a child or a, or a parent or a husband who, who is, is suffering mental illness, whatever?

You got it.

Okay.

All right, so is feminism doing more harm than good? I'm gonna say, of course, that I think it's doing more harm.

Uh, let's take a brief review of what we've gotten so far from feminism and its six pillars of propaganda.

So feminism inverted the Western social order in roughly one century through its six primary pillars, and a seventh that I'm gonna introduce to you today.

We've got sexual liberation, abortion, vilification of men, no-fault divorce, demonization of tradition, and either rejection or reinvention of Christianity.

Tonight, I'm gonna focus on the measurable results of these pillars and introduce the seventh, what I call the she-conomy.

It's not feminism.

You got it's impressive if that is a move And what about you with your your your good wife lawyer duo

well I mean I there's a lot of things that come along with growing up in that type of family like I will say I wasn't taught emotional regulation as a kid because again I was the emotional one and they were the logical one so for me I grew up with this like fantasy of like I'm supposed to be a power couple in this relationship and I felt like I kind of would seek validation in my relationships in the wrong places.

And so for me right now, I'm kind of just working on like finding out who I am and what what I need in a relationship versus off seeing what I grew up.

What about you?

I think there's a dialect for me in that question.

Because for me, it's like, I do feel like I was emotionally neglected growing up in a lot of ways.

And they were, you know, there for me financially.

However, and also, I think that...

It is showing promising signs that the Mediterranean diet may actually have further more holistic benefits than making us have beautiful shiny hair and...

Yeah, exactly.

And I think you really hit the nail on the head there that this diet... it's not something new.

It's the way we all should be eating.

And it has an effect on many different things.

Like we know that it reduces risk of heart disease, diabetes, it improves bowel health, it improves overall well-being.

So it's not just a special dementia diet.

And as you say, canned foods might feel less glamorous than going down to the market, but they have many advantages, not least they can be eaten all year round and for a very constant sort of price point.

Something that for me, I just don't like, I can't, I see it, but I like, how does this possible?

Yeah.

And it's it is tough for a lot of people to see, like, why does that connect and where does that connect? And my next book, which is a kind of a follow up to the set, the first book, and it's going to be out later this year.

I'm finally almost done with it.

It's been forever, but I have a lot of family stuff to ask them first.

It goes over like the Marxist side of feminism in depth, especially Bolshevik Russia, which was like a real hotbed of occultism and feminism.

And they had some of the very first like really radical feminist laws in Bolshevik Russia.

Okay.

Yeah.

Exactly.

So we have this perception, and the reason we have this perception is because of gender studies departments and because of, you know, women's lib propaganda.

The, the propaganda machine that we're fighting here is a century and billions and billions of dollars and help from the CIA on top of it.

So it's, it's quite the mountain to climb.

It's, there's a big barrier to breaking down all these myths and lies and trying to correct the historical record, because I think if most people knew these things, they would just have a different opinion.

Not saying they would say, "Oh, put all the women back in the kitchen and take away their right to vote." I'm saying they would at least have a more accurate perception of how things unfolded, why they unfolded that way.

And there need to be enough women doing that.

So what- why did women entering the workforce keep men's wages stable or keep them from going up along with the inf- with the inflation?

It really fundamentally changed the economy.

I have a friend named Aaron Clary, who wrote a book about the- about this.

Um, it's an analysis of what he calls a female-based economy, where it's more consumer-driven.

Uh, women are, like, responsible for 80% of consumer spending, and now that they're all educated and in the job market, we have a lot more of things like HR departments, uh, psychology, sociology.

Like, um, uh, the economy shifted away from being, like, manufacturing and production and more male-dominated things to, we have all these women coming out of university, and, you know, they...

What do they get degrees in? I think 80% of psychology degrees are earned by women, and then despite all our efforts to push women into STEM, they're still, like, maybe 20% of STEM degrees.

Yeah

They're on Jamie's channel.

And then I sent you two sub stack posts that I wrote about the episodes that we did and where we got all the source material from, because there's a ton of connections with Brittany to MK ultra facilities, like places that we know they were doing MK ultra experiments and also connections to British royal family, the Vatican and a lot of the, um, PDF scandals related to those things.

So if people are curious about like, where did Rachel come up with that? I wrote the sub stack article specifically so that people could look at that themselves.

So that's wild.

Like there's something weird going on.

Yeah, Selena Gomez has a lot of, you know, they did a lot of the same kind of stuff to her, which now, when we did this, it was kind of before all the Dan Schneider, Nickelodeon stuff had come out and some of the things that people now kind of recognize as like, oh, this stuff really happens.

This was like just before a lot of that broke and just before I think even the conservatorship stuff was settled.

So I had to do some digging, but all I did was go back and look Because you can dig up news articles that would report on her throughout the years of like, oh, Britney Spears just had another breakdown.

So I don't want to throw too much at it, but I think maybe from a female perspective, that pride, vainglory, modernist individualism, how do you see that working for women in the church? Do you think it's similar to the same buffer for men or the same hurdle for men? Or do you think it's different for modern

women? I think it's different.

And I think the biggest difference is that women are not, yes, we are in an individualist country, but women are still very much like a hive mind.

They're very, like I talk about the sisterhood a lot and how we're kind of hardwired to go along with each other, to not go against the grain too much.

If you've ever seen the movie Mean Girls, you know what happens if you're like, a girl who's not in the in-group, it can be so unbelievably vicious and nasty that the vast majority of girls with any self-preservation instinct are going to go along with whatever the group is doing.

That's why if Taylor Swift does something, every girl in the United States starts doing it.

If Beyonce does something, every girl in the United States starts doing it.

Anyone else like Rachel?

Yes.

...

the way that institutional capture happens is, I have an article about this on my Substack actually, with tons of examples and citations.

You get big foundations with tons of money, like the Rockefeller Foundation, the Ford Foundation.

There's tons of them.

They're everywhere, these big huge NGOs, and what they do is they find kind of like radical academics who are going to push the agenda they want.

They'll create a position for that person or a scholarship for that person and get them seated in an institution with a lot of influence under the, you know, contract that you're going to push this, you know, agenda that we want, and that's how they do it.

It will not make those people into Americans.

Really? Why do you say that?

I just think that feminism has absolutely destroyed so much of what I hold dear in life and it's held me back more than it's helped me.

It's one of the reasons I started looking into the history and investigating it for myself.

And I think it's just created a, uh, a world where we now have a two-income economy.

And for women like me who do wanna prioritize motherhood, it makes it extremely hard.

It just makes it financially difficult.

I face tons of social pressure.

What did you think about it?

Elon Musk advocated for us getting out of NATO.

I have been saying for the longest time, let's get out of NATO, let's get out of the UN, all these post-World War II power structures that have been around for decades.

We all know about the corruption.

We all know that they don't really do a whole lot except for collect a lot of money and do a lot of corrupt stuff with it, and I think that this whole crony power structure kinda needs to go.

Now, what replaces it, who knows? Like, my, my theory is that this is kind of the old guard po- post-World War II, like the Zbigniew Brzezinski and all, like, all those guys, right?

It's not-

And I think all these entrenched...

Like this power structure is so entrenched, and the people who are getting so much out of it, of course they don't wanna change, and of course they're gonna fight back tooth and nail because you're taking away their, uh, their little grift here that they have going on.