So, so what's the antidote? Is the antidote to this, um, embracing the notion of good enough parenting?

So I, I'm a massive fan of, of that term and it's not just to make, people feel better.

And I get that ambitious mothers in the workplace, they want to get everything right in every part of their life.

But I think what happens is we can be so focused on parenting and everything we need to achieve that we actually lose sight of the most important element, which is our relationship and connection with our child.

Now, I don't think I said at the between the ages of 25 and 16.

And now I've understood that three of them are adults, the most important thing and the way to have an influence in the long run is really always bringing it back to like that relationship and connection.

And thinking, yes, especially when they're young, you can get in all the logistics of, you know, everyday life, and you're like a banker and a PA and a cook and entertainment director and all the rest of it.

You know, working mothers particularly, because, you know, this is another area of expertise of yours that I would love to to discuss how the moms that you have worked with in your experience, like how does guilt tend to show up for working mothers? So, you know, when it comes to their children's education, behavior, emotional well-being, anything really like what do you see? How does it present?