So when people come to you, do they find that they're coming to you because they've tried various different outlets or tried different training programs and it hasn't really helped? Or are they dealt with different motivations for coming to you as a personal trainer and as them being your client?

I guess lots of different reasons.

Some people, because a lot of my age group that I work with are 40 plus or maybe even 50 plus.

Some of them are concerned about how well they're going to age and what's going to happen.

And so then wanting to continue to be capable as they age, that can be a big determinant.

Some people come to me because they've got medical conditions, people with high blood pressure, they're diabetic.

They've got thyroid issues.

But do you find that movement is... becoming so much more important now that to keep on moving to keep either elevating your heart rate and to keep moving you know in in different ways um has do you think that's quite important now

Mm-hmm.

And during that conference, I can also go to other sessions.

And there was one particular session which blew my mind.

I don't think I'd heard anything so incredible, so thought-provoking, that gave me so many answers about what was going wrong.

And it was the guy, his name was Dr. Cam McDonald.

He was the CEO of PHV60, which is personalized health.

program and he explained the different structures of bodies and how one person can get results from the same workout and someone else can get completely opposite results and but so much more than that it just showed how we're all so unique which is so different and after i walked away okay i've got to do this course this is what i've got to do this is the missing part and indeed it was

And