So, Rachel, when was the moment that you decided to walk away from being attorney? And was there a moment where you were sitting there at your desk or was it sort of a culmination in a buildup that just felt like, OK, it's time? Curious.

It was a culmination and a buildup, but also a moment.

Um, I am going to say one thing cause I've been coached a lot recently on to stop saying that I used to be a lawyer.

I am still a lawyer.

I am still licensed.

I haven't practiced actively in a little over 10 years probably, but it's funny whenever I say, Oh, I used to be a lawyer and everyone's like, I think you're still a lawyer.

Um, You know, looking back on it now, I mentioned at the start that I think we're all works in progress and evolving.

Can you share a little bit about what was the next pivot? And what's what are you up to today?