Would you feel comfortable sharing a little bit about that time in your life?

Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah, so it was, it'd be seven years ago this August.

And yeah, we'd been married about 18 months.

I'd lost my mum not long before as well.

And I also lost my dad when I was 20.

But yeah, we'd been married and then we got pregnant.

You've kind of been able to, you know, have a family and that joy, which never takes away from what you had before, but now, uh, space now where you can share your lived experiences with a community of people that you that you can help let's talk about mental health for a while because i think society still misunderstands you know whether they say suicide or taking your own life and mental health what would you like to see change in how we talk about these things