Like, let's talk about early 20s, Rachel, undergrad, and then we'll fast forward to Harvard Business School.

Um, yeah, so so excited to be on the podcast.

I've always been like a business person, so to speak.

I actually started investing with my dad when I was a teenager.

So I've always been interested in like numbers and business to study business undergrad at UVA and ended up going into consulting after college like so many people at the undergrad business school do.

But I realized that actually consulting and banking like it just felt so different.

big, big company, like you had so little impact.

you, you like, let's say, or do most people who have that, do they mostly get it around puberty or do some like randomly get it at 25?

Why, instead of just solving your own medical problems, did you decide to make it a business?

Yeah, I always like to say in a lot of ways, me founding Alara was just a very frustrated patient who decided that I wanted something better.

And it kind of snowballed from there a little bit.

So for context, I was diagnosed with polycystic ovary syndrome, PCOS, in my early 20s.

So this is about 15 years ago now.

So at the time...

It wasn't something a lot of people talked about.

You respond more calmly than