What will be different for federal IT program managers and also for industry?

Yeah, so a lot.

So for the program managers at HHS, um, there's a huge effort from the CIO to centralize a lot of the buys that are really, uh, siloed throughout the entire HHS enterprise.

Right now, we're gathering those requirements to see how we can get better value for, uh, taxpayer dollars and for the mission, and we're also, on the other side of the, the, the, the, the pendulum, uh, the, you know, we're, we're working with industry partners right now to make sure that we are acquiring...

They're- they're aware of this, w- one, and then two, that they understand that we are centralizing, and the days of, you know, having, uh, X software and 50 different-

So you've mentioned getting the word out, but what else has to change culturally and operationally inside HHS to make this transition?

So there's a lot that has to change.

Um, as I sa- mentioned before, you know, HHS has, it, like any other department, um, big government, uh, it's very siloed in how it procures, uh, and, and, and buying, you know, all types of IT.