Where did you where'd you take it from there? What was the next opportunity or challenge or how did it look?

I graduated in the year 2000, and that was like tech boom, right? Forget the Y2K and if the world was going to end.

Coming out of Northwestern, like you said, with two engineering degrees or four years, I was elevated, right? I was able to cut through the noise of the competition of jobs and those things, and I stood out.

And that allowed me, you know, to get to to where I went next.

And I would say it was an interview with Price Waterhouse Coopers at that time, consulting agency that he flew me out to D.C., that Virginia area.

And I remember walking in into a few things.

I remember getting on that flight and being like, oh, my God, somebody paid for me to fly.

What's a problem you care about? Worst case scenario, what's a problem someone you love cares about that you can fixate on? What took you down that path in the dual track?