You went through something deep and painful, whatever it may be, but actually something that led you to truly understand yourself at a deeper level, whatever's in your heart.

Yeah, sure.

So I'd say 20, I think the call definitely came knocking.

I think the awakening call or the, you know, we waiting for you was maybe a reflection.

I'd say it came in 2009 when my granddad passed away.

I remember wanting to do Eat, Pray, Love.

And then I was too scared to do that type, you know, like I wanted to go and just travel and be.

But what would your advice be for somebody who feels like they've outgrown their life and maybe to open up to a different way of being? What would your advice be for them?