How so?

That's right, Eric.

Uh, parents, uh, on, on the conservative end of the spectrum are very excited because, uh, they think that DEI is dead, but unfortunately, it is really metastasizing.

There is an entire glossary of woke, (laughs) a million different terms that this stuff comes under in the education literature.

When, when we were combing through, um, school board meeting minutes and education research, even venture capital annual reports, the number of headings under which this falls is absolutely mind-boggling.

You've got everything from resilience education to 21st century skills to the social emotional learning that we talked about.

Um, a lot of, we've seen DEI offices all over the country rename themselves things like the Office of Culture and Belonging.

There's no SEL education here." What are some of the clues that they actually are using SEL but they're just calling it something else?