Mm-hmm.

Um, and so he said, like, in Total Recall, he really tries to pull that out of him and play up his, um, his good side, I guess, or his natural side.

Um, but yeah, I, I wanted to talk about Pumping Iron, which the interesting thing to me is, like, where it all comes from, which they just never mention, but I do think they talk about it in the Arnold miniseries.

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I'm not sure about that.

But anyway, um, we can cut that if I'm wrong.

But it's like stuff like that where I feel like they're really trying to hold up a mirror to what these men are doing, um, and not necessarily making a commentary on like the people they fought in Vietnam.

And like, I, I mean even there's a scene where the studio did, Jed reminded me of this, there's a scene where the studio heads did want like more gun porn.