Preston, at what point did you start getting involved in the UFOs and the healing modalities connected to them?

Very quickly, actually.

I mean, for the first 10 years of getting involved in UFO research, I was reading books.

I was interviewing people.

I was going to conventions, writing articles.

And one of my very first cases I investigated involved a lady who does not want her name used.

I call her Wendy.

Where do the healings generally occur in the room that person's in or aboard the craft?

reminds me of people playing with a cat with a laser.

Exactly.

Cat and mouse game.

It was almost playful in a way.

So that opened the door for me.

And I'm like, huh, I wonder if I know anyone else who's seen UFOs.

What a shock, you guys.

don't you think that if they made their presence known to the public in a more direct way, people would have no alternative but to follow what they say or at least accept it?

doesn't suck.

No, it was absolutely great.

I was in bed dreaming, you know, like we do.

And suddenly I'm woken up because I am pulled out of bed through the wall.

And I saw the wall kind of.

fading away a little bit and I'm pulled up this, I don't know how to describe it.

Uh, Jimmy, um, energy beam.

So Preston, what does your research tell you about this? Can ET heal us?

Uh-huh.

It...

And, uh, maybe two, three feet off the ground.

And there was a bunch of sh- little short guys on one side I wasn't really paying attention to, because I immediately noticed that I was in this very large round room about 50 feet across, which was well-lit with indirect lighting.

All the things I've heard people describe, but it's different [laughs] when you see it for yourself.

There's-- 'cause you, you can visualize all you want, but until, again, until it happens to you, you just don't know.

Uh, and I was-- my attention was fixed on this six-foot-tall beautiful lady who was not quite human.

So it's not everyone? You don't think everyone's being taken on some level?

Well, speaking of swarms, your latest book in the series is volume five, and I think you have a chapter talking about swarms of UFOs, which is kind of rare, right?

Right.

Yeah.

Um, having interviewed so many people who've seen UFOs and really read everything I can get my hands on, the average sighting is one or two craft, possibly three, with about three or four people, usually in an anomalous light at night that's very brief.

But it's not at all unusual for people to see four, five, even 10 craft at one time.

But above that, it's exceedingly rare, and there are only a handful of cases where people describe seeing, say, 50 or 100 craft, but it does happen.

And so that's what that first chapter is about because these are so rare.

Have you been successful with it, and do you think it's safe?

Yes, but, you know, they might not think like us, huh?

Well, how could they possibly? I mean, w- by definition, they are alien, and, uh, this is one of the things that's really, I think, kind of frustrating and at the same time interesting about, you know, investigating UFOs is the variety of these craft.

Um, yes, we do get a lot of saucer shapes, but, you know, I don't think there's a shape out there [laughs] that, uh, you know, we haven't heard about, whether it's, you know, crosses or donut shapes or crescent shapes or...

I mean, it just goes on.

I had one guy tell me, you know, "I don't know how to describe the shape.

It was, wasn't octog- octagonal.

It had all these different-

All right, let's go back to this one that you know of, this outlier, you called it.

Sure.

And he said, "It was awfully high.

It was, like, up to my neck." It's like, well, that's a little odd.

[chuckles] And so he starts having this conversation with these folks.

He's still afraid to turn around, right? And two male voices talking to him in perfect, concise English, which, you know, they often do.

Uh, they'll speak in your own language usually.

Uh, and he starts asking all these questions like, "Where are you from?" And he gave me, um, he s- he said that a holographic star chart appeared, and he could see the solar system, and it shrank down, and it just got bigger and bigger.

Of the contact cases you've studied, which are most likely to be psyops, and to what end?

Hmm

... survive death and do continue our existence on the other side.

And if you look at accounts of, say, advanced yogis or enlightened masters, they're doing things like walking through walls, levitating, teleporting, doing all the kinds of things that we attribute to ETs.

So I think there are interdimensional beings certainly.

There was one lady I interviewed, talk about high strangeness, [laughs] she was having definite, what appeared to be ET visitations, just your kinda classic little guys around her bed.

But then had this almost three-month-long series of OBEs, I'm gonna categorize them as, with a tree spirit.

That's what she called it.

Why does the ET contact change from experiencers that see crafts in their backyards to other methods of contact, like astral, astral traveling?

Seeing as that you're actually in contact with consciousness or entities, what would you say to those that are of the mind that you're interacting with a demonic spirit or what if it was a trickster and not really the spirit of your mother? How would you know? Is there a way you could tell that it was a benevolent or your actual mother? Yeah.

Yeah, this speaks to, you know, I'm glad I studied demonology because they always have a flaw.

You know, they always exhibit a flaw.

There's certain, you know, it's a very, I don't want to say structured, but we know how these demonic ghosts work and how they manifest and what they do.

And they are bent on destroying and scaring people.

And you can instantly tell if you come across a bad spirit.

You can tell.

wow now if people are you know i'm definitely into i'd love to try this myself um do you have any specific techniques that you could recommend if someone wants to get started doing this