And I thought, this is so odd from someone who is quite out of character.

So out of character.

You're so positive.

Why are you suddenly now kind of making me feel anxious? And this pregnancy is fine.

It's really great.

And three months scan, all good.

And I call her up and say, I don't know what you're talking about.

at that point in a

For the audience that isn't familiar with the book and your work, would you be able to do a little bit of an introduction about who you are and the work that you do and what led you to write this specific book?

Yes.

So for the last, I would say, gosh, 14 years, I've been deep in the world of mental health.

And so I built one of the first gamified mental health cognitive behavioral therapy platforms back in 2016.

We grew that very focused on bringing psychoeducation to young people.

We teamed up with a huge education platform who later acquired the company and then wrote a book on mental health.

And it was just, it was very, you know, early on in those days when we were suddenly as a culture connecting the mind with the body, not seeing them as separate.

was.

And what about your connection with tarot reading? How has that helped you? Because I know you do tarot reading, and you also go to tarot readers.

Yes.

I think tarot is an amazing tool to explore the subconscious.

So there's this thing in science called information theory, and it says that we are being, being bombarded with 10,000 pieces of information a second, and yet we can only process 50.

So that means you've got all this information that your brain, without you even knowing, is filtering out.

So you can imagine all the information that you're not seeing because you're focused on one particular direction because your brain is very efficient.

It only wants to tell you things that it thinks you will think is important.

People don't, people don't believe a lot of it, do they? They find it all a bit woo-woo.

Poppy, you open, uh, the book by saying, "There's a part of us that believes in magic because sometimes it tumbles into our lives unannounced." When has that happened for you?

The idea of magic is one that everybody can have an example of, and that's why I love it so much.

Whenever I've gone and given talks recently, I will hear five stories that will just completely astound me, that I can't believe that it, that has even happened.

But I think, you know, magic has played such a strong role in my life, from the micro to the macro, micro being, which I guess can be macro.

You know, my biggest jobs have come from meeting strangers on trains.

And in the, uh, first chapter, I talk about synchronicities, which was a term coined by Carl Jung, this idea that events are linked by meaning, not by cause.

And so, you know, you bump into a friend after 20 years of never seeing them, and yet they have this story for you that you just needed to hear that day, a synchronicity.

What's dowsing? Sorry to interrupt