Where do you think we've gone in terms of the respect for the rights of people like

those Afghans on that boat? I mean I definitely think that there's been a narrative of scapegoating by political parties the world over that seeks to drum up hate and mistrust against very particular communities in order to, I think, distract the larger population.

from issues that really matter and their lack of good governance with regards to especially a lot of the economic and social rights afforded to their populations.

The thing is, though, I think that, and I think a little bit about my daughter who goes to school here in Geneva.

She goes to a public school here.

And some years ago, the public schools in children, refugees, into the schools.

And her best friend is a Ukrainian asylum seeker whose father is still in the Ukraine, you know, and they're very close.

You want to come in on that, Pooja? I mean, do you feel the current climate is demotivational?

We've spoken offline before, so I know a little bit, but for those people who are new to you listening to the podcast or watching it, please explain where you started and where you've ended up to today.

So I started my career in radiotherapy in 2011, so a long time ago now.

Um, I had a very extensive career around, all around the London departments and around Buckinghamshire.

Um, I love radiotherapy.

I feel that I always will love radiotherapy.

It's a part of me that, you know, I will never be able to...

It won't leave me.

Do you think your relationship with your husband has improved since becoming self-employed?

Tell us about your career before becoming a mum.

So I started in radiotherapy a long, long time ago now, around 15 years.

And I spent my time, you know, treating patients with cancer.

Throughout my career, I rotated around various departments in the UK and And I met some wonderful people, some wonderful patients, some people that I will never forget, wonderful colleagues and staff, all of which sort of peppered throughout my career have been just so inspiring to me.

I think radiotherapy in itself attracts a certain type of person to it.

Someone who is very detail orientated, someone who cares deeply for others and people who just want to do the best job they can at caring for other people.

And radiotherapy, I loved it.

How do you explain that to somebody?