okay.

And what's crazy is this footage of him test running his suit.

It's on YouTube and you can actually watch for yourself how it goes.

Anyway, not to, you know, give a spoiler, We open with how he has designed this parachute suit he wants to test out.

He has plans to climb to the top, one of the higher levels of the Eiffel Tower.

He calls all the media.

He wants everyone there.

That's more the issue here.

Phoenix, how do you see this? And what should Christians think about this kind of rhetoric? Where does it come from?

I mean, it's so difficult not to just roll your eyes consistently as he states it as a matter of fact, as though we're all in agreement.

The words he spoke were hateful.

Well, what an unbelievably subjective term to apply to a political figure like Charlie.

Of course, he didn't speak hatefully.

He just simply didn't affirm.

And that's been the number one lie of the last decade.

How is this related to cultural Marxism?

And it was the cultural Marxism that said, "You know what? We need to let them

themSo it was like a two-- it was two strikes that created this ridiculous situation we now find ourselves in.

If you keep telling everybody that their personal truth is valid and good and true, and truth corresponds to reality, it was inevitable that someone would eventually push this into the public space and say, "Oh, okay, back, back that up.

Let me walk into your bathroom.

Let me whatever, whatever." Um, and like I said, now that these people are viewed as being part of the oppressed class because they're perceived as suffering because they have this very, very unfair non-scientific diagnosis, which of course couldn't be a mental health issue, 'cause that wouldn't be loving or kind.

It's an issue that they can't help.

They're literally a male mind soul.

It's about ideological capture from the inside." So Phoenix, can you unpack? Like, what are, what are you talking about when you're saying, like, a Democrat is the small fish leading all the way back to Islam? What does Islam have to do with communism that has to do with Democrats?

Phoenix, you wanna speak to that?

Yeah.

So it all began many years ago when a very, um, overambitious copywriter-turned-creative director decided to throw caution to the wind and send an email to her boss about, "Hey, do you wanna maybe write a book together?" [laughs] And then immediately thinking, "What were you thinking? Why would you even do that?" And then, uh, I think the same day, he didn't leave me hanging too long, thank God.

He was like, "Yeah, why not?" [laughs] I was like, "Oh.

Oh, really?" So i- it started there, a, a, a contract, a, a commitment of sorts.

And the initial idea was to focus on identity, because that was such a hot topic at the time.

It continues to be, of course, b- and it just, it's gotten worse.

Can you explain that a bit? Explain what postmodernism is and why you're pegging the war to this.

It's like,

well, those things don't gel together.

You've got one, and a lot of people want to keep heaven, but they don't want to keep the morality, particularly sexual morality.

They don't want to keep God's definition of identity.

So those things.

And then we move on to beginnings.

What's the best explanation for where we came from? who we are, what we are, and then another one is on human nature.

But is that true? And can you elaborate on why we have the democratic socialist people rising up in politics right now?

We've talked about some of it in the previous session, but there's a kind of a famous example we put in the book.

Yeah.

So the biggest concern for many regarding AI is that it's a consumer product.

It's not an information product.

So before we all relied on Google searches and then we were given a selection of options, we still had to click on and investigate.

Right.

AI is not concerned about that.

What does this do to our ability to think if we are going to be that lazy when we're given an assignment?

Why is that not a determinant for whether or not someone's a human being?

Yeah.

So we talk about this actually in the introduction to our chapter on pol- the war on politics and law.

Human rights are not negotiable according to geographic location.

So just as, um ...

For example, we use the story of Solomon Northup, the man who wrote the memoir Twelve Years a Slave.

In the book, we talk about how the ...

Mm.

So it was hard for me, but Phoenix, what are your thoughts?

we honestly knew going in that the format was terrible i mean like from from a content production perspective phenomenal she's it's an excellent content factory machine from a getting to the truth actually making some progress terrible format so we knew that we weren't going to get many solid points in if we were even able to, I mean, honestly, I didn't even get to address the prompt I was in.

I was on the manifestation one.

I had so much stuff prepped for manifestation.

I ended up defending the sanity of Jesus.

You know what I mean? Like not related at all.

So that was definitely a challenge.

yeah

Why do we have to go into the details that this book gets into on all these or many of these moral and cultural issues?

Well, basically anybody who's under the age of 50 has been told that they are precious and perfect from the day Barney launched his first episode.

So telling people that they're sinful and in need of a savior is a pretty big obstacle to convince certain people of.

I think it was a lot more instinctive to generations before to say, listen, the world's evil.

That's probably because people are evil.

therefore we need a Savior, therefore Jesus is the answer, etc., etc.

Nowadays, you're going to have a hard time convincing anybody to take responsibility for their own inherent sin nature.

What is the problem with AI when it comes to accurate information? Because we have an instance in the book where the same AI chatbot was asked the same question and gave two different responses.

But how can we maybe bring logic back in in a way that is not going to be so off-putting to people?

Wow.

I think, unfortunately, the people who love logic tend to be less creative.

So you've automatically got this issue where it's presented as though they're somehow opposites or they're in conflict with each other, that you can't be emotional, relational, artistic, creative, and logical.

It's not because they're, um, c- incompatible.

It's just that those who tend to be more mathematical, analytical, logical, they just tend naturally with their personality to embrace that more than the other side.

And so you create these stereotypes where the two can't walk alongside.

Because that's, I mean, that's way before people are t- bringing in these modern ideas.

It will be

... spontaneous fun.

So he comes in with, "All pastors."

All pastors.