For me, what's important is that we understand that there's different technology that needs to be adopted.

Selfishly, I think I, I, I have that battle with, with clients a lot.

You know, am I thinking about my wallet and, and, you know, making those decisions, you know, thinking about peak demand? Especially in the context of Quebec, where electricity is so cheap, like, selfishly a lot of people say, "Well, peak demand doesn't really impact me." I mean, yes, it'll impact down-- It'll trickle down later, b-but it's hard to...

I mean, renovations are expensive, so people only think on the short term, right? And that's where I think, I think utilities will need to play a bigger role in that.

And two, I mean, incentivizing hydronic heating, just like, for example, Hydro Quebec is doing.

I'm putting you in the context of Quebec.

I mean, our peak demand is one of-- I mean, we're very-- Everything is pretty much electric here in Quebec.

What, what's your main interest in, in looking into, into hydronic systems? You did mention your one multifamily project where the ducting has been a pain, to put it lightly, but what are, what are the other parts of it that are, that are intri- intriguing to you?