What types of conversations are you having with these tech giants as well as maybe other member states or the UN?

I was part of the UNA advisory body, so we did sit with private sector.

And there are not really much tensions because I think everybody seems to agree on some certain principles around safe, secure, inclusive and trustworthy AI systems.

The conversations, of course, I'm having now is that potentially, how do you talk about safety beyond frontier risks? Because as much as people talk about frontier risks, we bear the social technical risks.

For example, the conversations I have with those companies is that we're the largest consumer of their products per capita.

especially Kenya.

We're kind of the number one user of charge GPT.

So you don't want to just be users, but you want to take part in the architecture building of not just AI safety, but the entire...

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So if you think about your usual, what you can see with your eyes, and then the satellite layer, which just zooms in, and you see green.

So what the model has been able to do is to create a smart layer, right? And in that smart layer, you can actually see many things, from analytics to the grids, to a dashboard, to an alert.

So we're able to layer to those blocks.

You can quantify degradation by blocks.

You can match interventions.

You can match reforestation.

That information was invaluable.