Philip, you were gonna say something.

Yeah.

Um, I mean, Vanessa, you mentioned team can now be one product manager and one engineer, but these days the lines between different team members are becoming very, very blurred.

Mark Anderson has talked about this Mexican standoff between engineers and product and designers, uh, where previously they all had a distinct role, but now designers can think about the product, the product managers can write code.

So now we really just have this one class of people which he's calling just builders.

So we're all builders now, and I see this in my own organization.

I see members of the product team and the design team committing code just as freely as engineers these days.

What's that doing within our industry, and where does creativity come into it now?