And I'm just intrigued about your experience going abroad and playing there.

Yeah, well, I've been away with Linfield.

We played as winners of our league in the European Cup a couple of years prior to that.

We played the Dnieper Petrovskys, who were obviously a Ukrainian team, but was then part of the Soviet Union.

And then, so this was the next European experience.

And I think it was the last year, if I remember correctly, Graham where there was an open European draw where they the Balkans hadn't broken up the Soviet Union hadn't broken up and therefore it was 32 teams perfect number for European competitions so and of course they just they were the you know reigning champions at that time they had Darko Panchev who was I think it won the European Colton boot.

Since then, Mihailovic had gone to a star for Lazio.

With football being such a short-term career, I'm just wondering, when you moved into the twilight of your career, how did you navigate your way out of that and back into, I don't know what to call it, civilian life, should we say? I'm assuming faith can have a part to play in that sort of transition.