So, Professor McCann, do you need to scale on the expertise before you get the agents in the authority?

In the various things I've written on these topics, one of the most important documents for me is a kind of reference one.

It was published by the OECD about 13, 14 years ago.

And what the OECD does is they categorize the roles and the nature of sub-central government.

So whether it's local city region, federal lender, provincial, whatever terminology you want to use.

And there are four dimensions to subcentral governance.

And three of them are what the OECD calls citizen-facing.

pattern you've now got the unenviable role of mediator between me i