You've got Phil the Younger and Phil the Elder.

I mean, you were somebody I, you know, hugely admired, admire, and certainly as a young Salvation Army boy, and that might sound like I'm...

Putting down that tradition or where I came from, I'm still extremely proud of it.

But I didn't know anything about orchestras and how to play in an orchestra or even think about playing the trumpet, really.

But there were books you used to send to the family, etc., etc., which I can only thank you for the recordings.

I've got two questions for you on that, though.

One is, is there a particular recording you've done that you're most proud of? but the second one that I this is a bit of a you talk about geeking out over mouthpieces but this is my sort of geek moment because I the other another trumpet player I grew up idolising was of course Morris Murphy And when I was fortunate enough to get the first trumpet job at the LSO, when I landed that, I thought, wow, this is me set.

Do you feel this? I don't