And first of all, I'd love to talk a little bit about your kind of background prior to Zilch and almost the founder story, right? So who is Philip Bellarmine? Where did it all start for you?

I mean, really, the way I think about it is kind of a lot of people talk about entrepreneurs and founders, and I kind of think about it more as builders, problem solvers.

What is it that, you know, annoys you that you're trying to fix? And that's more the way I think of at least myself.

So if I go backwards, you know, all the way to when I was sort of still in school, I grew up in South Africa, and my father was, you know, a really smart technologist.

And so computer science wasn't actually a subject in school back then.

And so it was like an extra subject you could sort of take.

And this is when you're talking about like you programming in languages like Turbo Pascal and like old school stuff.

How do you get around that? How do you recover from that?