Julie always had her Olympus camera in her hand.

She was wanted to have a, a photographic diary of the trip, and she knew that the colors, the scenes, the, the, the setups in, in, in, in the Sahara would make good photos and she, and she, and she'd got some wonderful ones.

As they headed further south, the desert became dense jungle.

We went to see the gorillas in what was Zaire.

She was almost bubbling.

It, it was the biggest thing in her life.

We had the gorillas this close, almost reaching out trying to touch you.

She was, you know, almost floated back down the, the mountain back to the camp.