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Phil Murphy

Oct 29, 2026

16:58
Believe is a product, right? What did you see inside your own walls that convinced you that correct visibility and governance was a product?
17:05
yeah so this is where it gets fun again everything i said at this point was was really made more the mandate was around how do we gain efficiencies how do we how do we again not grow the back office in a linear fashion as we grow the company but to your point that's everybody's doing that or is going to be doing that you know how do you take it one step further So for us, it was actually, you know, it came down to one simple question.
17:27
Somebody asked, I think it was our COO asked, well, you know, where is AI actually being used? By whom and all what data? And I couldn't answer it.
17:35
I mandated everybody to use it, but then I couldn't tell you what they were doing.
17:38
And it's not because anybody did anything wrong.
17:40
The usage was widespread, multiple.
17:42
Yeah, they were doing what you asked.

9 MINS LATER

27:07
But if you want to mandate adoption and establish governments, uh, governance at the same time, like how do you make that balance and how do you help people understand that one pays for the other?

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