For

me, when I think of it, science and poetry really do different jobs.

Science helps us understand what is happening, why it's happening and what actions are likely to work.

And I think that poetry and other art forms can help people understand why any of that matters through people's emotions or memories or identities, imagination, values.

So science gives us the evidence, but art helps us understand what that evidence means in human life.

That's your field, but we don't have to pin you to it, right?

I mean, David should speak to this, but some of the work that he's done in the past or the poets for science have done in the past, like on vaccines, or if we think about space, there's a lot of emotion there, whether space, you're just awestruck with the vastness of it, or with a pandemic, with fear and anxiety.

It extends well beyond the environmental fields.