when you think about it now?

Yeah.

And outside of that, it was, you know, nobody had really adopted that.

It was a US thing.

So outside of that it was, "Right, well, do I move to the US?" But then I'm, I'm at a massive disadvantage because I haven't grown up playing football or basketball or whatever it might be.

And it was this thing of that's who I wanted to deal with.

So I had this massive gap of knowledge, and I had my degree, I had my on-the-floor knowledge, which I'd acquired over many, many years, but I'd always ask questions.

For me, it'll be straight to the bathroom, shower, brush my teeth.

It's protein another time." Or, "Take this supplement at this much," and then someone else will say, "Never take that supplement." I mean, just out of interest, why is it that you say you don't have a supplements company? [laughs] What, what's, what's your thoughts on that?

See, it's the same reason why for years I insisted on not calling myself a personal trainer, 'cause it, it's just so bad.

I mean, the supplement industry is an absolute train wreck.

It genuinely is, you know, for multiples of reasons, and we can get into some of them.

I was a consultant for one of the big sports nutrition brands for a long time, and sports nutrition's, in the grand scheme, relatively simple, because we've got a handful of ingredients, probably not even a handful, to be honest, that we know work.

They do what they're meant to do.

They work very well in the, the areas that we would utilize them, caffeine, creatine, beta-alanine, arginine or anything of that nitrous sort, pocket, sodium bicarb.

Yeah.