
Phil Bray
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Sep 2, 2026
Meat, marriage, music: modern ways into weird old books
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Natasha MooreHOST
What do you make of that kind of human intuition to kill an animal as part of religious practice?

Phil BrayGUEST
And I think we've lost the ability to maybe nuance things and to be happy with not knowing.

Phil BrayGUEST
So Adam and Eve, first humans, Cain and Abel with their children, Cain and Abel brought offerings to God.
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Sacrifice, Atonement, and Presence: Maybe Leviticus Doesn't Mean What We Think? (Phil Bray) Ep #234
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32:47Dru JohnsonHOST
Have you ever seen a live animal sacrifice in person? Not – Like the sacrifice, not just a butchering?

Phil BrayGUEST
And so we were taken there by a coffee company, because I had a connection to coffee.

Phil BrayGUEST
And we visited a coffee farm that the the people who did the tour were buying coffee from this farm um and so that he was kind of their their source of income and they were really really proud to have us there and they slaughtered an ox for us um yeah which would have been thinking back now at the time it wasn't I mean, it was still amazing that they would slaughter an animal for us.
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48:38Dru JohnsonHOST
Um, How do you see the book of Leviticus as a whole? Like if you were to say, okay, what's the thumbnail of what Leviticus is doing? What do you think it's doing as a whole text? Yeah.