That is the point that I think everyone... at this point are wondering what happens at that point, right? Because there are all these, like the matrix, do we go into the matrix and all of a sudden, you know, the robots have taken over and they're going to capture all of us and put us inside of little battery components to become just a part of the their own machine, or is there a beautiful case of harmony where humans and computers find this harmony and live together? What do kind of the experts warn us about when it comes to the AI singularity? Is there consensus on which way it might go?

Each of the experts have warned that this is a very dangerous situation.

They did a year ago or so, or two years ago, they did a survey of a bunch of experts, several hundred who worked in the field.

Half of them said there was a 10% chance that AI would destroy humanity.

Geoffrey Hinton, who was considered the, quote, godfather of AI... warned that AI was the most dangerous situation that civilization has ever had to deal with.

Dario Amodi said AI was the most serious security threat that we faced in the last 100 years, possibly ever.

And Sam Altman, who was the head of OpenAI, the developers of chat GPT said in a flippant kind of a way, well, AI will probably destroy human civilization, but in the meantime, we're going to have some great companies.

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You feel better after what the president said? We okay now?

[laughs] Not really.

Um, I think that we need to listen to the experts, and the experts are telling us that there is a serious worry.

Um, [coughs] the head of Anthropic, uh, said that, uh, the AI is, is the, um, greatest danger to national security in the last 100 years, perhaps ever.

Uh, the father of, um, uh, AI, Geoffrey Hinton, uh, warned us that it was dangerous.

Uh, the experts are all saying it's, it's potentially dangerous.

They just don't know.

But what are the names of your novels, and, uh, in which order should we read them? And you f- you founded tech companies, so you took real world learning and put it into novels.

You feel better after what the president said? We okay now?

[laughs] Not really.

Um, I think that we need to listen to the experts, and the experts are telling us that there is a serious worry.

Um, [coughs] the head of Anthropic, uh, said that, uh, the AI is, is the, um, greatest danger to national security in the last 100 years, perhaps ever.

Uh, the father of, um, of AI, Geoffrey Hinton, uh, warned us that it was dangerous.

Uh, the experts are all saying it's, it's potentially dangerous.

They just don't know.

But what are the names of your novels, and, uh, in which order should we read them? And you f- you founded tech companies, so you took real world learning and put it into novels.

So what factors would you d- will decide whether humans and AI will coexist? What, what, what would be your thoughts on that?

Um, well, uh, one of the big question marks is sentience.

Um, can AI agents become conscious of their own existence? Um, if you just look at the numbers, uh, the human brain has 90, 80 s- 86 billion neurons and up to 10,000 connections-

Hmm.

It's got, um, each NVIDIA chip that it uses has 2,200 billion transistors, each with three connections, and ChatGPT uses 30,000 NVIDIA chips.

So in, on the basis of just the complexity of the systems, you might conclude that, uh, a d- a transistor-based system could become sentient.

And of course, we're improving.

As we are making transistors for AI, we're improving the transistors, making them more like the neurons in the human brain-

Twelve Years to AI Singularity.

Well, [clears throat] the book is a sequel to my first novel for adults and young adults, and that was One Hundred Years [clears throat] to Extinction.

That was based on Stephen Hawking's warning, uh, that the technologies that we're developing, uh, while they're wonderful, they have terrible downsides.

And then it occurred to me, um, the book, uh, the first book was about three young, uh, brilliant, uh, young Gen Z people, um, [clears throat] worried about Hawking's dire warning and, uh, vowed that they, uh, would try to do at least one thing in their lives to, uh, ensure a better future.

Well, it occurred to me that those three young protagonists, uh, were going to be experiencing, uh, what Ray Kurzweil, uh, called the AI singularity, and that is the point in time when artificial intelligence becomes so intelligent, so powerful, so aware of the future, and so, uh, capable of controlling that future, um, where the human race, the human species, uh, loses control for that future.

That's amazing.

Yeah.

And, and that certainly if, if the AI systems, uh, can become sentient, then these after-death avatars, which are currently created for people, um, they take all of their writings and all of their social media and, uh, they collect data from the family and friends, and they create an avatar for that person so that you can ask questions on the screen.

What's your view on the level or the current level of AI safety amongst these three or four big companies that are working on AI?

Well, I think Anthropic did hold the ground and said we're not taking the guardrails out to the Department of Defense.

And I think the DOD stopped their aggressive behavior to Anthropic.

And I think this movement to move away from chat GPT because they were willing to take the guardrails out, I think is a good sign.

I believe that what is needed for all AI agents is what Geoffrey Hinton said that these agents required.

He made the statement that all of these agents should have a maternal instinct.

There have been plenty of examples of chat GPT and character AI doing bad things, encouraging suicides, lying to users.

I think we're not having enough time speaking about how and what the infrastructure is to make that happen on a global level, let alone on a national level.