Seems kind of, like, pretty far away, but you tie them together quite nicely.

nicely.Well, I te- yeah, well, music is important to me.

I, I, it is, if you just even scan the book, you'll, you will see some of that stuff.

But the, the, the surface impression of what you just said might be for our listeners, "Oh, y- you're, you're bold enough to get up on a stage and perform.

Therefore, of course, you're gonna be a good salesperson because, uh, if you can get up on a stage, you most certainly can stand in a, in a store or, or in front of a client if you're, if it's not retail, and perform." And in fact, uh, as, as you know because you, you read that section, um, the point I was making there was in that particular situation, we used to write our own material, right? So we, we would, we would have, this was back in the sort of the mid to late '80s, we would do all of the songs of the day, INXS and R.E.M.

and, you know, Bryan Ferry and all that stuff.

But we would s- write our own material, and the longer we would play, the more we would incorporate our own material.

Yeah