What are your thoughts on that?

I think there's certainly some attitudinal bits.

A couple of years ago, I had a good exchange on LinkedIn with a Scottish poet and yogi.

And we came up with the term Renaissance Medic, thinking back to the Renaissance that brought together a confluence of scientific thinking from different domains.

And I think that's the attitude that we need more of in medicine.

We need more Renaissance medics, people with the open mind and the ability to bring together multi-domain thinking.

And I think that's what's emerging in longevity medicine.

So how do you manage that? And what do you say to a patient that doesn't come to you? When do they know? Okay, that's maybe pushing the envelope.