Like that's the night job.

That is the night job, yeah.

And it's been a journey.

You know, I got some gray hairs here.

So, you know, and HR folks, we do see the craziest things.

So some of it isn't my observations of the quirks of the world or whatever, just as...

I get material just from the HR jobs serving up a near infinite amount of wild and woolly stories.

How do you sort of start to mix these things together?

Yeah,

yeah, exactly.

And then there's reliability is the next factor.

So that's simple enough.

Humor isn't such a big factor there.

It's like, if I showed up to this webinar on time, it's like just meeting your commitments, the basics.

You've got a deadline, you meet it.

So, I mean, whether it's a recruiter or HR professional, within that first 10 minutes of meeting this people leader, is there a golden thread of commonality that stands out to you? Or is that golden thread that has been a part of each of those person's stories or portfolio that has helped you create the result for them?

But where are you generally doing these?

So there's a few different forums, fora, whatever the word is.

So I've been lucky enough to have kind of an ongoing thing at Transform, that conference in Vegas every March, which is always a lot of fun.

And I kind of was an early adopter and promoter of Transform, and they've been kind to me ever since.

So the last couple of years at the Wynn, I've been like the last performer on stage before it kind of shuts down.

And We moved the party to some musical guest at a nightclub across town.

So that's been great, you know, to get the mic for 30 minutes of HR comedy at a big conference like that.

What would you recommend they do to work with their leadership to bring more humor into the workplace and and really build part of their culture around that.