Like when you got off the bus on the other side of the country, where did you go?

Well, fortunately, my brother, older brother, was living in Seal Beach.

And he had an extra room where I could stay for a while.

But it was, you know, you don't go to Hollywood and suddenly make it.

It took me a decade to take lots of courses in script writing.

And I would...

As much as possible, I would go to the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences where they had a library where you could, all you had to do was give them, let them hold on to your driver's license and you could sit and read any of the scripts, any of the thousands and thousands of movie scripts and television scripts that they had in their library.

Maybe you could say a little bit more about that, but I'm curious, how do you think that changes the way leaders and others who are concerned with how they communicate and want to do a better job of it, how do you think that's going to change the way people need to tell stories today?