And so did that just kind of fall into your lap or were you doing anything to maybe aid that connection or that contact?

No, I wish I could say I was, but no, it pretty much fell into the lap.

You know, the stars aligned.

I took a job.

It was for, it was for like, I think it was mainly listed as like sales and marketing.

I mean, that, that kind of thing.

And yeah, And just, it was close to my house, you know, I could spit it at the front door.

But was there anything that was a little challenging when you started breaking into the industry on your own?

And so did that just kind of fall into your lap or were you doing anything to maybe aid that that connection or that contact?

No, I wish I could say I was, but no, it pretty much fell into the lap.

You know, the stars aligned.

I took a job.

It was for, it was for like, I think it was mainly listed as like sales and marketing.

I mean, that, that kind of thing.

And yeah, And just, it was close to my house, you know, I could spit it at the front door.

But was there anything that was a little challenging when you started breaking into the industry on your own?

And so did that just kind of fall into your lap, or were you doing anything to maybe aid that, that connection or that contact?

No, I, I, I wish I could say I was, but, uh, no, it, it pretty much fell into the lap.

You know, the stars aligned.

Uh, I took a job, it was for, it was for, like...

I think it was mainly listed as, like, sales and marketing.

You know what I mean? That, that kind of thing.

And, um, it just...

Oh

It's a big idea.

And I did some due diligence.

I actually went to see...

Bob Gagosian, who was head of Woods Hole at the time and now went to NOAA.

I went to see Julie Packard out on the West Coast at the Monterey Aquarium.

I was in touch with her deepness, Sylvia Earle, who was always generous and supportive.

And then also a fellow by the name of Patricio Bernal, who at the time was the Executive Secretary of the Intergovernmental Oceanic Commission of the UN.

And then we